Thursday, February 04, 2010
Some of you might know that I've spent most of my online time on Twitter, which I believe to be a wonderful service run by lefties who have no idea what they're doing. That said, it holds a special place in my heart, which is why it's maddening to have this debate about what "spam" is or isn't, what "aggressive" is, and whether or not posted rules mean anything if you're a conservative on Twitter. Here is the thread of the conversation I'm having with Ginger, one of Twitter's spam control people.
Those of you on Twitter, am I out of line here? Reply me @radioblogger...unless, of course, they permanently suspend me. if that happens, join www.hughniverse.com
where the rules aren't so weird.
Submitted Feb 01 04:02 pm by you
possibly stuck on twitter's spam list
i am not a spam account. i produce a nationally syndicated radio program, where the show is live tweeted weekdays using the #hhrs tag. like any normal radio practice, we try to widen listenership on a daily basis. same goes with twitter. unlike @ev's philosophy of de-emphasizing amount of followers, that's exactly what we strive to gain. twitter has never put my account on a suggested follow list, so i follow others, engage, and remove those over a period of time that do not agree. i rarely if ever retweet, all tweets are originals by me, and no porn/product offers are included. can't twitter embrace capitalistic intents without playing favorites with celebrities? right now, my account won't show up in search engine apps because i dumped several thousand non-followers yesterday. let's be realistic, shall we?
Thanks for letting us know that your updates were not appearing in Twitter search results. In order to provide the best search experience for users, Twitter automatically filters search results for quality. To understand what might have caused your tweets to jeopardize search quality, please review this page:
Your account has been aggressively following users. I can also tell you that a higher-than-average percentage of these users that you proactively followed have either blocked your account from following them, or reported you as spam.
You will need to revoke access to any automated applications that are causing your account to violate the rules. The only automated following behavior that Twitter allows is auto-follow-back (following a user after they have followed you). Please note that it's not just the automation of the following that is against the rules, but the aggressive nature of the following itself, even if you are performing all the operations manually. This help page has an overview of our Following Best Practices, and more information about these rules and limits:
I've now updated your account settings so that your tweets will appear in the search results. Please note that it may take at least 24 hours for recent tweets to be indexed, and due to the dynamic nature of Twitter's search algorithm, you may not find every recent tweet in Twitter search.
Feb-03 2010 11:36 am.
That help page specifically addresses the difference between the 1,000 a day technical follow limit (in place to limit egregious behavior by spam accounts and to prevent strain on the site) and allowed following behavior for users:
Your account has followed well over 300 in less than a day and has so far been blocked by thousands of users.
Please note that it's not just the automation of the following that is against the rules, but the aggressive nature of the following itself, even if you are performing all the operations manually. Repeat violations may result in permanent suspension, so you'll want to be sure to review those documents before continuing in your current following behavior.
Feb-04 2010 03:37 pm.
ginger, again, i'm grateful for the response, which is refreshing when dealing with twitter personnel, but your response is not addressing the questions i have. i have read the forum list entry you cite. we have different views of "aggressive following". you think when i add/dump people, that's aggressive and puts a strain on the system. i would counter than when you generate thousands of followers per day with your suggested follow list for ashton and other celebs/accounts, that's more aggressive than anything i could do on my own, and that's more of a strain on the system.
i've added 300 today. which is still below the 1,000 a day rule twitter has in place. as for being blocked by thousands of users, i'm not surprised. i do politics in my tweets. i'm conservative. i criticize the obama administration a lot. that's bound to turn off lots of followers that in turn block me. i am not profane, racist, or offensive in my criticisms, and have debated many of the left on twitter, if one wanted to research my timeline. but the fact people block me does not make me spam, and i don't think twitter can show me that the people blocking me are solely because i follow them.
are you going to permanently suspend @nansen? are you going to permanently suspend @guykawasaki? i can't believe my use of twitter is being threatened with permanent suspension when i'm staying within the posted follow number rules, staying within the 10% ratio, but am being threatened under a subjective rule which is not being enforced system-wide, and one, aggressive following, that cannot even be defined finitely. you certainly have the ability to suspend me. i certainly have the ability to go on a national radio program and speculate why twitter is playing favorites when selectively applying their "rules".
Isn't a better solution to recognize that twitter is a wonderful service that has many applications for many different people, and that as long as i'm within your set follow caps, and am not trying to sell people porn, i'm not spam and should be encouraged by twitter to grow and prosper?
Feb-04 2010 04:11 pm.
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