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Saturday, November 17, 2007
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Duane Patterson
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Updated with new video link. CNBC's Larry Kudlow joined Hugh Friday afternoon, demonstrating that timing is everything. Hugh was able to speak with Mitt Romney Thursday afternoon, but about an hour before the push polling controversy broke on Jonathan Martin's Politico blog. Kudlow was able to sit down with Governor Romney Friday morning, and discussed the controversial and poisonous phone call campaign in two of the three early primary states of Iowa and New Hampshire. You can see that Kudlow-Romney interview here.
Here is what Kudlow had to say about it on Hugh's show.
HH: So how did the Governor react to the bigotry in play in New Hampshire?
LK: Well, he was very, very unhappy, almost emotional, because I went right at it with him. And his basic message was it’s an un-American thing to do, number one, that we believe in the religious freedom in this country. And number two, it is particularly so in this period of Thanksgiving, which hearkens back to our founders and our ancestors. And you know, he argued very strenuously, almost emotionally at times, Hugh, that this was wrong, it was un-American, and it was bigoted. And he particularly blamed the Feingold-McCain bill, or whatever it’s called, McCain-Feingold. Now that’s an interesting take on this story, and I’ll tell you why. The Jonathan Martin in the Politico.com, which is where this all came from, mentions that the push poll, these negative polls, they’re not even polls, they’re just negative phone calls, had good things to say about Senator McCain, and then blasted Romney, and blasted Mormonism. So of course, I asked him if they could trace any of this back to Senator McCain’s people. And Governor Romney said no, he couldn’t be certain about that, and then he unloaded on McCain-Feingold as the ultimate cause of this, because it fostered these 527’s.
HH: Right.
LK: …which as you know, independent expenditures are not traceable. There’s no disclosure…
HH: Right.
LK: …as to the ultimate sources. And then we talked a little bit about that, and he really hammered it, and he really hammered McCain for supporting that. And then I came around again and I asked him, so therefore, is there any evidence whatsoever about McCain involvement, and he again said no, and then he again hammered McCain-Feingold. And I felt very clearly that he was directing his ire at McCain, even though he couldn’t prove it. He decided to use the vehicle of McCain-Feingold. And I want to say probably like you, I’ve interviewed Mitt Romney several times this year. He was as strong and clear and solid as I have ever seen him. And his statement was superb. And as I said it at some point, he seemed rather emotional about it, but he got his message out with enormous clarity. Now we talked a lot about other economic stuff, Hugh, but frankly, it is this push poll story that dwarfs everything else.
And also this:
And I just want to say that just personally, I’ve given a lot of these interviews as you have, and so forth, I was very proud to be part of this interview, and I was very impressed with Romney’s stand-up nature, his forthright statement of opposition, and his tying it to the founding of this country on the great principle of religious freedom. I was proud to be part of this interview. I want to make that very clear to anybody who’s listening out there. I’m not picking sides. It’s not my position to pick sides. I interview all these people. I am not biased. I ask tough questions. I had Fred Thompson on last night, and I asked a lot of tough questions at Fred. But I was proud to be part of this interview, and to participate in the principle of religious freedom in the Thanksgiving period this year as part of our great heritage. And I was proud that Mitt Romney was tough and strong on this issue.
Romney didn't accuse the McCain camp directly as the perpetrators of this push poll, but he certainly left the impression he's suspicious they're behind it. So did Larry Kudlow. He refused to speculate publicly, but he immediately pointed to a questionable Chris Matthews interview of McCain and his 95 year old mother, who went anti-Mormon a week ago.
The truth of who is behind this will be revealed soon enough, as there are a whole lot of people investigating it now. But if it is discovered that the McCain campaign was indeed behind this bigoted attack on Romney, that will be the final nail in the coffin of what history will view as the failed political career of a great American.
It's not "bigotry" to examine what a person believes-it reflects their judgement.
"Bigotry" is discriminating against people based on the things about themselves they did not choose and cannot change-such as their race gender, age, aaand handicap,
Romney chose his religion, and it reflects his judgement and lack of abilty to differentiate between facts and fables, and history from mythology.
Religion is a matter of deliberate *choice*. Therefore, it is not "bigotry" to criticize his philosophies or beliefs.
What if Romney's religion was Wicca or Voodoo? Are those religions also beyond question?
I believe his judgment is defective based on the teachings of the cult he chose to join.
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Forget bigotry- let’s just apply… …a little LOGIC here.
Okay let’s say I’m on John McCain’s staff. The week after my candidate’s mom says some negative stuff about Mormons- I decide it would be a GREAT time to do some negative calls about Mitt’s religion. (Very hush hush- on the down low)
Where do I go to get the calls made???
I know, I’ll go to a Mormon owned, Mormon staffed, VERY closely tied to BYU (executives at Western Wats are coincidently- on the teaching staff @BYU ) polling firm and pay THEM to do ANTI-MORMON CALLS! Yeah- perfect choice there!
And of course- the MORMON FIRM TAKES THE JOB! To make (perhaps illegal!) calls to trash Mitt Romney’s RELIGION??!!!
AND THEN THEY MAKE THE CALLS!
Some calls EVEN to VERY high profile Romney supporters- (we’re talkin’ state officials here) Because these folks- of course- don’t KNOW that Mitt’s MORMON! (or perhaps because- we know the calls WILL GET TO THE ATTENTION OF THE MEDIA- which I, as a down-low hush-hush McCain staffer really want!)
And MOST AMAZING OF ALL- NOT ONE of these Mormon folks employed by the Mormon owned poll firm- LEAKS about WHICH CAMPAIGN REALLY DID IT!
AND in the end- MITT ROMNEY gets to denounce the calls as “un-American”, blame the other candidates, and get the sympathy of all the good folks who can’t bear to be thought of as BIGOTS!
Yep- that’s my plan!
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I think McCain is desperate and he or his supporters have tried to use religion in the past to attack Romney. However, it is hard to believe that McCain is that dumb. Some of his UT supporters might be (McCain has prominent UT supporters), but McCain and his paid staff are not that dumb.
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On the bigotry.
Attacking Romney on his religion is a type of religious bigotry. It is also unAmerican in the sense that the constitution says that there should not be a religious litmus test.
Attacking the Mormon faith by calling it a cult is a type of bigotry. It implies that Mormons are kool aid drinking, brain washed, incapables or that they are some type of insidious treacherous secret group who are trying to take over the world. These are 2 of the well used themes of the anti Mormons.
It is just as bigoted to call Catholics a cult as it is to call Mormons a cult. It is just as bigoted to attack the Mormons for being successful as it is to attack the Jews for being successful.
Elements in the Evangelical movement have gotten away with bigotry against the Mormons for a great number of years because it served their purposes and few called them on it.
That period of bigotry and those tactics need to be put behind us.
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People who don't like others to question their position are far TOO QUICK to label the questioner a 'BIGOT'.
I am NO BIGOT-I am also NOT STUPID. I will not be put-off looking for the truth because someone thinks it politically expedient to call me names. |
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Duane "Generalissimo" Patterson is the producer of the nationally syndicated "Hugh Hewitt Show". In a sense Duane is "the man behind the curtain" -- and this is his blog.
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